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Corndogg
04-29-2007, 01:22 PM
(from the previous forum)

INTRO TO PARKOUR:

Parkour is a French discipline in which one attempts to go from point A to point B while overcoming any obstacles in the fastest, most efficient and ideally most elegant way possible. This is accomplished by combining various body movements - jumps, vaults, climbs, whatever fits the situation - into what parkour practitioners (a.k.a. "traceurs") call "flow." There are several fundamental parkour moves, but ultimately the focus is still on using the most efficient and effective movements.

The beauty of parkour is that it is not only both a physical and mental discipline, but also a flexible one with low barriers to entry. Any active person of any ability and age can do it. You can do parkour alone or with others. You can do it any time of the day, in any environment, and the necessary equipment is really just a decent pair of running shoes. People see parkour videos of David Belle and Sebastien Foucan jumping from rooftop to rooftop, but they have been training for years and are true professionals. Parkour can be as simple as jumping from bench to bench, or vaulting a rail instead of walking around it.

WHY PARKOUR?

Parkour is different from simple running and jumping in that there is a specific mentality and philosophy behind the movements. As you are running and navigating obstacles, you are constantly looking for the best line through the environment and determining the most appropriate movements to traverse that line. You are also challenging yourself both mentally and physically as you explore the boundaries of your capabilities, while pushing the limits of what you can do further and further. Often times traceurs can't perform a movement, such as a long precision jump, solely out of fear. Overcoming this mental hurdle is just as important and difficult as vaulting a physical hurdle.

Another aspect of parkour mentality is how you view and interact with your environment. Unlike sports like skateboarding, where skaters wax up curbs and structures and grind them, sometimes disrespecting and damaging the environment, a traceur adapts themselves to the space in an effort to "flow" through it efficiently. It is often said that parkour is "a way of life" and that is a very true statement. Even when not out free-running, traceurs will scan their environment, look for lines, evaluate the space, and imagine themselves moving within it. You can do this anywhere, and often when you return to a previously visited spot you will see it in a whole new light, as your skills increase and new options become available to you. The possibilities become endless.

Personally, I used to do aggressive inline skating in high school, so yes I was out there grinding and jumping, but even after I stopped I would still always look for jumps and interesting structures to do tricks off of. When I discovered parkour and researched its background, it really clicked with me. The scope of things to explore and lines you could take became all encompassing, not just to those accessible by blading. Parkour is also a great physical and mental workout, and the fact that one can do it anytime, anywhere, alone or with others means it's very easy to integrate the discipline into one's life.

PARKOUR IN THE US:

I believe that parkour is still in its fledgling stages in the US. National and local (either state or citywide) communities are slowly but surely growing and maturing as more people discover parkour and get deeper in to it. Many new traceurs say "I've been doing this stuff for years, I didn't know it was a sport!" so now we are facing marketing, education and organization issues in promoting parkour. I do not think we are anywhere near critical mass. As a founder and administrator of sfparkour.com (SFPK), I would say we are at critical mass when on any given day of the week individual traceurs are running organized "jam sessions" amongst themselves, and you can often see people practicing parkour. Right now we still jam in smaller groups of 4-6 people usually, about 3-5 times a month, as onlookers stare in bewilderment and confusion. Individuals may be practicing daily, but as a community we are still developing.

I do believe parkour will continue to grow and gain popularity in the US, but that's a double edged sword. It is very easy to overlook the mentality and philosophy behind it, and instead see it as "skateboarding without a skateboard" or as an "extreme sport." Although flips, spins and tricks are not considered parkour, they are fun and a natural pairing with parkour as many traceurs have gymnastic or martial arts backgrounds where flips are commonly practiced. Onlookers are attracted to flips and flashier moves, and thus start associating and equating it to parkour. This misconception is especially dangerous in the US where extreme sports are hugely popular. The global parkour community has fragmented along these lines as well into parkour, freestyle parkour (where "absolute freedom of movement" is advocated, including flips) and other subgenres.

As a purist, I hope we don't see the day where there are "No Parkour" signs next to "No Skateboarding" signs, where parkour competitions are televised on ESPN2, or where traceurs are getting endorsement deals to parkour as an extreme sport. There is already a PSP game called "Free Running" and a small parkour segment in the new Tony Hawk's American Wasteland PS2 game which show unrealistic physics and extreme flipping that I fear will spawn a new generation of kids who will try and imitate it and call it parkour.

A good number of people organizing the larger US parkour communities understand and adhere to the core principles of parkour, so together we will continue to promote proper education of the discipline as much as possible. In the meantime, we'll be out free-running, inspiring others with the new possibilities of movement throughout our surrounding environment.

ABOUT ME:

My name is Brandon a.k.a. "Corndogg." I discovered parkour in the summer of '05 and have been hooked ever since. After failing to find any established parkour community in the San Francisco Bay Area, I founded http://www.sfparkour.com (SFPK) in August 2005. SFPK now has many users in a very active discussion forum. Jams are organized regularly and we are gaining new traceurs all the time! We have expanded to include East Bay (Oakland/Berkeley), down south to San Jose, as well as north to the Sacramento area. Through the efforts of enthusiastic local traceurs and partnerships with state (PK Cali - http://www.pkcali.com, WAPK - http://www.washingtonparkour.com, and more) and national (APK - http://www.americanparkour.com) sites, US parkour will continue to grow at a rapid rate!

2nd Chance
04-29-2007, 07:29 PM
nice.

Kirill
01-01-2008, 12:11 AM
holy cow!

Adhesive
01-01-2008, 11:36 AM
Too bad the last time any of us actually saw Corndogg was around 2005.

hahaha, just kidding man, COME OUT TO A JAM!

Austin
01-01-2008, 12:25 PM
I have never seen this mythical "Corndogg" in the wild. He really does parkour?

palu
01-01-2008, 12:30 PM
The only time i've seen him was at the Explorotorium Exhibit Jam-- that was March. Corndogg is just "keepin' it real", no worries.

Adhesive
01-01-2008, 05:40 PM
I guess that was the last time I saw him as well. Damn, March man? Nearly a year ago...

MarkDizzle
01-01-2008, 08:41 PM
ive seen him tons of times ^^
He can jump off a 2 story building with his pinky...

Kirill
01-01-2008, 11:52 PM
ive seen him tons of times ^^
He can jump off a 2 story building with his pinky...
Wait What?? And I have never seen him as well. I would love to appreciate him and meatlad for making this wonderful site :bowdown: this site made me really happy!

SafeNSure
01-03-2008, 04:25 PM
...this is probably one of the best and more agreeable Parkour definitions that I've ever read! :biggthumpup:

Moreover, reading this: My name is Brandon a.k.a. "Corndogg." I discovered parkour in the summer of '05 and have been hooked ever since. After failing to find any established parkour community in the San Francisco Bay Area, I founded http://www.sfparkour.com (SFPK) in August 2005. SFPK now has many users in a very active discussion forum.I thought that, while the first breakthrough feeling has been probably shared by many, the 2nd event (that Corndogg put time and energy in founding and managing SFPK.com) is a VERY fortunate coincidence...

SFPK is indeed a very lively community and "The Forum" is its soul!
Kudos to Brandon for making that happen... :bowdown:

Should you ever need a volunteer for anything that (i.e.) requires a face that doesn't look like the latest kid on the block (even if I am... :tongue:), please count me in... I'd be honored to contribute!

Corndogg
02-18-2008, 10:23 AM
another article on SFPK written for the "Word on the Street" at PKNA:


SF Parkour, aka SFPK
THE hub of the Greater San Francisco Bay Area parkour community

SFPK was founded in August of 2005 by Corndogg and Meatlad, who were fully amped on parkour after seeing David Belle's scenes in District B13. After scouring the 'net and coming up empty on any local parkour activity, Corndogg and Meatlad quickly set up a discussion forum at www.sfparkour.com (http://www.sfparkour.com/) to serve as a channel of communication and promotion, and method of organizing with new traceurs. Then they were off and running, with an enthusiastic grassroots community starting right along with them. As San Francisco, Berkeley, Oakland and other cities were explored, and as the word started getting out on how to start and join up, parkour in the Bay Area quickly started to take off.

Jams slowly grew from 2, to 5, to 10 people as more and more new traceurs joined in. Veterans slowly became established, even as others joined jams only once for fun. Traceurs began to get familiar with hot spots and spots to avoid, sharing this information on the forum. Connections were made and jams organized with visiting traceurs, and traceurs in other areas, such as the SJPK team already jamming in San Jose. Ideas and techniques were exchanged, and the SFPK community continued to grow.

From the beginning, and to this day, SFPK continues to help create a fun and diverse parkour community in the SF Bay Area and beyond, and promote the discipline of parkour through education and experience. That's it! SFPK is not an exclusive "team" or "crew." They don't segregate if you choose to do parkour, freerunning, FSPK, FRPK, 3run, tricking etc. The goal of SFPK is to just have fun, learn from and teach each other, explore the Bay and jam! With this kind of community focus, it is also an important goal of SFPK to support local (and sometimes national and international!) parkour crews, initiatives, projects and media appearances, and help harness mainstream exposure to grow the discipline properly. Over the past years, various traceurs from the SFPK community have been invited to photo and video shoots, art and media projects, newspaper shoots and interviews, demos at indoor and outdoor events, even corporate meetings! And as leaders emerge from within the community, or sometimes as new additions from outside the Bay, SFPK continues to support their dedication and efforts.

Today you can find official monthly jams rotating throughout cities in the Bay with large turnouts of 25-30+ traceurs, as well as smaller jams held on various days of the week at local colleges, schools, gyms and everywhere else. The forum continues to act as the hub of the very progressive community, and grows bigger and bigger each day as more and more are drawn to parkour. If you are in the San Francisco Bay Area or are travelling there soon, be sure to connect with SFPK and join the fun! Please visit the forum and look for upcoming monthly and local sessions at - http://www.sfparkour.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=11 (http://www.sfparkour.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=11). Jam soon!

- Meatlad, Corndogg and NoSole of SFPK

palu
02-18-2008, 05:09 PM
really well put guys.

2nd Chance
02-18-2008, 08:49 PM
sweet guys. good summary, to be sure.

SafeNSure
02-18-2008, 10:17 PM
...SFPK is not an exclusive "team" or "crew." They don't segregate if you choose to do parkour, freerunning, FSPK, FRPK, 3run, tricking etc. The goal of SFPK is to just have fun, learn from and teach each other, explore the Bay and jam! With this kind of community focus, it is also an important goal of SFPK to support local (and sometimes national and international!) parkour crews, initiatives, projects and media appearances, and help harness mainstream exposure to grow the discipline properly...

- Meatlad, Corndogg and NoSole of SFPK

Can't stop praising you guys! :bowdown:

Corndogg
03-03-2008, 11:36 AM
thanks for highlighting that part SafeNSure. i want to point it out again - yes, we are called "SF Parkour" and "SFPK", BUT as stated we do not segregate based on parkour, freerunning, FSPK, FRPK, 3run, tricking etc. everyone should make an individual choice based on their own preference, and we expect everyone here to be respectful of others and their choices.

Zack Weldon
10-23-2008, 07:26 PM
May I use parts of this peice in the documentary we are making at school? not the whole thing and I would put due credit in the credits. I just really like the way you wrote some of the things and would love to use it.

Corndogg
10-23-2008, 07:35 PM
sure :biggthumpup:

lethalbeef
10-23-2008, 10:45 PM
Nice little flashback.

Corndogg
10-26-2008, 10:49 AM
heh, yeah quite a flashback. probably not many here even remember our first forum (phpBB) where it all began, there were a ton of threads there too but we couldnt migrate content over to this new forum.

its been over 3 years now since meatlad and i started SFPK. its been a great, fun 3 years. our core values and goals havent changed, and we continue to try and grow the community, educate people, and support individuals no matter what their focus is. with the influx of new members, we are trying to emphasize safety, slow progression, and help get people started off on the right foot. we continue to try and connect people all around the bay and beyond, and think its been going pretty well so far.

i do realize theres a lot of "fluff" or "bling" or whatever you want to call it at SFPK. we have a site, a forum, a blog. we have a youtube channel. we promote and market ourselves. we sell t-shirts, and soon hoodies and biz cards. i just added google ads. we participate in a lot of events. but i dont see this as "selling out" or anything like that - as long as we keep to our core values and goals, all these things are just different viral methods to grow the grassroots community. i do work in eBusiness and Content Management after all :wink: its good practice for me lol. but in addition to the viral marketing fluff, i think we've generated some really valuable and hopefully unique content that we've shared here and with others. and of course most importantly a great community has been formed, with tons of awesome people and some really great traceurs who are putting SF, SFPK, the bay area, and CA on the parkour map.

one of my goals for SFPK and parkour in the bay area is still the same as when i started - on any given day of the week, i want people to be able to jam with ~5-10+ dedicated traceurs/freerunners in their own hometown, anywhere in the bay. its gonna take a while to get there, but with this great community we have and all the emerging interest and leaders, i know itll happen one day :biggthumpup:

ive said it a few times but ill say it again, with you all out there contributing and pushing things forward...


2009 is going to be a GREAT year for parkour in the Bay Area!

feeble
10-26-2008, 11:09 AM
yee

hillexallen
10-26-2008, 11:14 AM
on any given day of the week, i want people to be able to jam with ~5-10+ dedicated traceurs/freerunners in their own hometown, anywhere in the bay.


That would be great!

Let's do it!

palu
10-26-2008, 11:14 AM
probably not many here even remember our first forum (phpBB) where it all began

ahh, the good 'ole days

Zack Weldon
10-26-2008, 12:35 PM
2009 HERE WE COME!!!!

2nd Chance
10-26-2008, 05:13 PM
ahh, the good 'ole days

dear god that was a long time ago >_<

or seems like it at least.

hillexallen
10-26-2008, 08:29 PM
ahh, the good 'ole days

does the forum stil exist?

can i visit it sorta like an :sfpkvault: museum?
that would be cool!

palu
10-26-2008, 08:31 PM
haha, i wish it did too! it had a bunch of awesome threads including my old training log:tear: I wrote about my first kong in that tread...

but believe me, this is a much nicer forum layout!
:highfive:

2nd Chance
10-26-2008, 09:21 PM
This forum kicks the old one's butt. The old one served its purpose, but this one is much better.

Haha it had a thread asking what a kong even was... Ah, good times...

lethalbeef
10-27-2008, 12:03 AM
Kinda sad we don't have htose threads though, isn't it? Where are all our beginners, and if they're around, how come they aren't asking questions? Wish the "techniques and movements" board was more active.

Kirill
10-27-2008, 12:09 AM
Kinda sad we don't have htose threads though, isn't it? Where are all our beginners, and if they're around, how come they aren't asking questions? Wish the "techniques and movements" board was more active.
Most of them got tugged over to BApk seen like 40 people today at Washington.

BENNY
10-27-2008, 12:40 AM
what does the old forums look like? im curious

hillexallen
10-27-2008, 09:26 AM
Most of them got tugged over to BApk seen like 40 people today at Washington.

Come on, the SFPK beginners' classes get so many people.

But yes, it would be nice for beginners to ask more questions.

Corndogg
10-27-2008, 10:04 AM
Come on, the SFPK beginners' classes get so many people.

But yes, it would be nice for beginners to ask more questions.


all good, its not a contest :wink: just happy that people are out there jammin. i will say that our jams are open to everyone, and i know that theres people who attend sessions from each group, and i definitely encourage that.

lethalbeef
10-27-2008, 07:50 PM
I mean, where are they in terms of the forums, I wish I could connect with them here because I don't see most of them at jams outside of the classes.

Corndogg
11-24-2008, 10:39 AM
check out the recent interview i did for Freerunner Magazine online:

http://freerunnermag.net/live/?p=118

would love to hear peoples thoughts and comments!

Adroit
11-24-2008, 01:04 PM
You handled the parkour "politics" really well, and its a perfect piece for putting your/our principles out there for everyone to see. Great stuff.

Corndogg
11-24-2008, 03:01 PM
One more note on "marketing" that I tried to address in the interview, but wanted to be more explicit about here:


We consider SFPK to be a "nonprofit" and may work towards formally establishing it as a nonprofit company next year. I think we've been pretty open about how much we are making on the t-shirts and Biz Cards, since the answer is NOTHING. We have given away more shirts and cards than have sold them. We have subsidized travel costs, meals, and everything it takes to run things online. The "SFPK Fund" is Meatlad's and my pockets, and we've invested well over $2.5K over the last few years. Selling things and the recent google ads hasnt even come close to making a profit, nor cover our past or current expenses. Even if we did make a profit, it would go right back into the community, hence our nonprofit mentality.

So why do we deal with the media and do media appearances? It's all part of viral marketing. Meatlad and I work as eBusiness Consultants, and have extensive experience with marketing. These viral marketing techniques are for one thing and one thing only - to "hook" people and get them interested in parkour, and to bring them here.

You don't learn parkour from the media. You don't learn about training, and the philosophy, and the discipline from the media. The media consists of out-of-context sound bites and impressive images that attract people. Our intent is to attract people, get them here, help them get oriented and educated on the risks and dedication required, then connect them to real life groups who are out training. Learn - Train - Connect - Jam. That's why the Area Reps were established, we wanted to create a super fast way to put a person in touch with a person, and get them out to begin training.

SFPK is trying to provide tools to the parkour community. We are willing, able, and open to new ideas on how to shape these tools to make them as useful as possible - as long as you're bringing those ideas in an open minded, positive, constructive way and are willing to compromise so that the solution benefits the most people. That's why we push things like references and resources, organizing jams, sharing training techniques etc. We are open to suggestions like "Turn off the forum once a month and just post a reminder for people to go out and train" or "Let's kill the entire Off-Topic section." Remember we have anonymous feedback methods (http://www.sfparkour.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1741), and a few threads for suggestions (here (http://www.sfparkour.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68)and here (http://www.sfparkour.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1308)) to help guide our actions. Be positive, be proactive, and help shape SFPK into the most useful tool for you, your training partners, your local community, and parkour in general. I think you'll find that together we can do great things.

A "2009 SFPK Planning" thread will be posted soon, with our thoughts on the direction and vision for next year. I sincerely hope people will contribute to it, as your guidance and input is invaluable.

Ascent
11-24-2008, 03:30 PM
:runaway: me heart corndogg

Meatlad
11-24-2008, 03:53 PM
Thanks Ascent, we're glad you heart SFPK:wink:

And like media pieces, the forum's main goal is also to get people out training and serve as a resource for making your training more effective. So let us know how to better achieve that.

Corndogg is the man when it comes to working on the site (and many other things obviously!), but he and I really do do things in conjunction with each other, from ideas through to managing projects. I don't post as much as he does, but I'd like everyone to feel free to come to me or your local area rep too if you have ideas or issues to bring up. There's a lot that goes on behind the scenes and the management of this site and the activities it coordinates is distributed, and so are the channels for improvement!

Corndogg
11-24-2008, 03:58 PM
yeah thats a good point. theres definitely times where "i" speak from my own personal viewpoint, but when i say "we" that always includes Meatlad, and NoSole. and now the Area Reps! we are constantly doing checks and balances, bouncing ideas and getting approvals on things from each other, and now have the Area Reps as a sounding board to help guide us.